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ArticlesResponses and Rebids in a Walsh or non-Walsh Style
Some respond 1 holding xxJxxxKQJxxxx to partner's 1 (non- Walsh style) and some respond 1 (Walsh style).

What do you play a jump to 3 after 1 - 1 - 1 not playing Walsh?

What do you play a jump to 3 after 1 - 1 - 1 playing Walsh?

You have to discuss with your partner what your responding style is. If you decide to play Walsh, your 1 response denies a four-card major unless you have a game force. In other words you respond 1 holding xxJxxxKQJxxxx. Therefore opener only rebids a four-card major with an unbalanced hand. Holding KxxxAxxxKxKxx, open 1 and rebid 1NT over partner’s 1 response. If Responder has a four-card major, he can check back. Holding AxxxxxxxAKJxx, open 1 and rebid 1 over partner’s 1 response. Responder will know that you have an unbalanced hand.

If you decide not to play Walsh, then you respond 1 holding xxJxxxKQJxxxx. Opener rebids 1 holding KxxxAxxxKxKxx and you find your eight-card heart fit. However, I don’t go out of my way to respond 1. Holding xxxxxxxAKxxxxx I’d respond 1. Holding xxxAKxxxxxxxxxI’d respond 1. There are some experts who play a jump to 3 as game-forcing five-five.


Jon Wittes---I would ALWAYS respond 1 on the given hand, whether playing Walsh or not. If I had responded 1, I can get out in 2 by rebidding 2 over 1 -- 1 -- 1, which would be XYZ demanding 2. I would play 1 -- 1 -- 1 -- 3 as a forcing 5-5 with slam aspirations.

Jeff Rubens---In "standard" methods, 3 is a game-going two-suiter. I have used this as artificial--and complicated--in different specific methods. I’ve never responded 1 holding KQJxxx of diamonds.

Dan Morse---After 1 - 1 - 1 not playing Walsh, 3 would be six diamonds invitational. After 1 - 1 - 1 playing Walsh, 3 would be five hearts and five diamonds forcing.

There are some experts who play 3 as invitational five –five.

Steve Bloom---Natural, and invitational, typically five-five. Same for all fourth suit jumps. As for your example hand, I can't imagine bidding anything but 1 over 1.

Eddie Kantar---On my deathbed I wouldn't respond 1 with this hand nor would I play any system that requires it. After 1 -- 1 -- 1 -- 3, that is an invitational two-suiter with a likely 5-5 pattern.

Danny Gerstman---Both invitational with at least five diamonds, although in the Walsh style I do not promise five hearts, but I do of course in the non-Walsh.

Steve Garner---Ron Smith and I play jump in fourth suit as five-five invitational. We play a Walsh style.

Barry Rigal---I play both five-five invitational.

Kit Woolsey---Both as five-five invitational.

Ralph Katz---I tend to play 3 is 5-5 invitational whether I play Walsh style or not. But I would never bid 1 with this hand in either case.

Larry Cohen---I like to play that a jump in the fourth suit is five-five invitational. No exceptions/changes due to Walsh style/philosophy.

Drew Casen---We don't respond 1 unless we have a game-forcing hand with four hearts and five+ diamonds with ONE exception, that being the hand in your example. That being the case, we would raise opener's 1 rebid to 3 to show this exact hand. Raising opener’s 1 rebid to 2 is a natural game-force. In the second question, 3 would show five-five natural and invitational.

Ron Gerard---After 1 -- 1 -- 1 not playing Walsh, 3 is natural and invitational. After 1 -- 1 -- 1 playing Walsh, 3 is natural and invitational, but I would never be that stupid. My impression is that you have to bid 1NT with xxJxxxKQJxxxx. I do play Walsh but specifically excluded 4-6’s for this and other reasons.

Steve Weinstein---I play Walsh and probably would still bid 1 with that hand. I play the jump to 3 is five-five invitational on the auction you gave.

Joel Wooldridge---Not playing Walsh, 3 is five-five invitational. Playing Walsh, 3 is a game-forcing artificial spade raise, which is part of a complicated system.

Henry Bethe---Playing old fashioned bridge, I play a jump rebid of 3 as invitational. About a king or an ace better than this hand. With this hand I would rebid 2. Playing Walsh, I play 3 as two suited, 5-5 invitational. With this hand I would rebid 1NT, and hope to convert 2 to 2.

Some experts play a convention called XYZ. After 1 - 1red - 1, 2 forces 2 and shows a diamond signoff or an invitational hand. If Opener has a very strong hand, he does not have to bid 2. After 1 - 1 Red - 1, 2 by responder is an artificial game-force. You can also use XYZ after 1 - 1 - 1.

Joe Kivel---The problem is resolved playing XYZ. After 1 -- 1 -- 1, in order to play 2, bid 2, and pass partner's 90% forced 2. Holding a different hand that you want to invite, start with 2, and raise the 2 bid to 3. If you want to game force, over 1, start with 2, and then rebid 3. With strong 5-5, e.g. xAKJxxKQJxxQx, bid 3 over the 1 rebid. So on the given hand, playing Walsh or not, I bid 2 and pass forced 2 response.

Billy Pollack---XYZ, of course. So 2 usually forces 2, and we're done. 3 is a game-forcing concentrated five-five after 1 -- 1 --1. It’s natural, invitational with a good suit after 1-1-1.

Some play a jump to 3 when playing Walsh as a 4-6 signoff.

Mel Colchamiro---Playing Walsh, I play it shows the hand weak four-six. Not playing Walsh, invitational five-five seems more important than a "mini-splinter."

Eric Greco----Playing Walsh, 3 has to be to play, unless you have some other method to make a non-forcing diamond bid (same as 3 on the auction 1 -- 1 --1). If I were not playing Walsh, 3 would either be invitational or forcing, which is my preference.

Carlos Pellegrini---Not playing Walsh, 3 would be five-five invitational. Playing Walsh, 3 would be a signoff in diamonds.

Marinesa Letizia---Not playing Walsh, I play 3 as a splinter, less values than 4. Playing Walsh, I play a jump to 3 as a weak 4-6.

Allen Siebert---I play Walsh and 3 is weak after responding 1, unless I'm playing XYZ, then 2 .

Mike Passell---If playing XYZ, I can bid 2 forcing 2 then bid 3 for invitational five-five and be able to jump to 3 to show slammish five-five, and go through 2 then 3 for all non-slammish looking five-five game only.

Larry Mori---The answer would be based on whether one is playing XYZ where 2 relays to 2 so that 2 could be played. Many "usual" auctions take on other meanings, such as 2NT relaying to 3. One can fit different invitational lengths as well as forcing lengths. As in one-way new-minor-forcing, many types of hands are covered. To get the invitational lengths correct, all jumps to three-of-a-minor would be five-five invitational. Otherwise, left to Neanderthal methods, it seems best to cater your system to games rather than partscores. A mainstream idea is to play it as five-five invitational. With the given weak hand, the unappetizing 1NT might be about it. It keeps the auction low, and you might be able to convert 2 to 2.

Jill Meyers---I bid 3 with each.

Bobby Wolff---I would bid 1 and then 2 over 1, and since I normally play two-way Checkback Stayman, would sign-off with 3 over 1NT. Also I play 3 after 1 --1 -- 1 is Game Forcing and distributional, and then 1 -- 1 -- 1-- 3 as invitational.

David Berkowitz---I play XYZ, where 2 relays to 2 to get out, and I have more flexibility. I think 2-2- 3 is invitational with only four hearts and a jump to 3 should be five-five invitational. xKQ10xxKQ10xxxx is a minimum. A jump to 3 after 1 - 1 - 1 playing Walsh is to play, unless playing XYZ, which I endorse, then as above.

Mark Lair---I respond 1 and rebid 2 before Walsh. If I respond 1, I am forced to pass 1 or bid 1NT. I think 3 is five-five invitational with hearts and diamonds. Over many years, I have played 3 as a weak 4-6. Playing Walsh I respond 1.

Koneru Venkatrao---I’m about 99% Walsh style, but actually have notes to make an exception with this particular hand with such good diamonds and weak hearts within a weak hand; if it is a part-score, I want to play in diamonds. If the Auction goes 1 --1 -- 1, I play 2 by responder as game-forcing with four hearts within the Walsh context and jump to 3 to show this 6-4 hand type. Thus, we will not usually miss a heart game if we have it, but can play a safer part-score if it is not a game hand.

Currently, I play jumps into fourth suit are 5-5 invitational, thus I could not handle the given hand that way. I am not convinced it is best to get to the three-level voluntarily on potential misfit hands and am open to other options. I know people use XYZ, and maybe that could solve some of the issues on this hand, but I am not a fan, because if I responded 1 and partner bid a heavy 1, we could miss a game if I tried to sign off in 2 using XYZ. If I wasn't playing Walsh and had responded 1 with the actual hand, I would rebid 2 as sign-off and 3 would be invitational.

When people have the weak 4-6 hands with clubs, I know most partnerships have various methods to sign-off in 3 either directly or via 2NT or other puppet mechanisms. Perhaps adjuncts to add this weak 4-6 diamond hand to sign-off plans is helpful, but you can be creative to use many of those follow-ups after relays to 3 sign-offs for choice of games or slam purposes.

I think it's a matter of frequency and preference, and I feel with my solution above, I retain the viable heart game possibilities without overstating my strength, while keeping my strong penchant for the Walsh style to bypass diamonds on non-game going hands.

John Mohan---If playing XYZ: just as in two-way new-minor-forcing, a jump to 3 should be a slammish two-suiter after 1 - 1 - 1 - 3 (just as 1 - 1 - 1NT - 3) since 2 would generally get you out at 2 unless opener has concealed extra values; then you have to play 3 correction of an unexpected, extra-values bid, is to play; any other bid would be originally intended as in invitational but now game-forcing.

This unexpected, extra-values bid is not possible after a 1NT rebid of course, but very possible after opener's 1 rebid.

If not playing XYZ: in Walsh style, 1 - 1 - 1 - 3 is weak with 4-6. When playing non-Walsh, it would be invitational showing 5-5.

Further, 1 - 1 - 1 -3 could be game-forcing if you play 1 - 2 as natural and invitational, which I think is best, but that requires some other artificial game-forcing sequence with club support.

Doug Doub—I play the second round jump shift into the fourth suit as a splinter raise of the third suit in either situation. My second choice would be natural and invitational (typically 5-5). I would respond 1 with the example hand, though I often bypass diamonds with hearts and limited values.

Chuck Berger---I play a jump to 3 after 1 - 1 - 1 as five or more hearts, five or more diamonds, game forcing,.and slam interest. Playing Walsh, I play a jump to 3 as 4-6 non-forcing.

There is no standard way to play a jump in a third or fourth suit. However, a majority of experts like 3 after 1 -- 1 -- 1 to show an invitational five-five hand. If you have a weak hand with four hearts and six diamonds, you have to bid 1NT and hope for the best. I think that if you have a weak six-four such as xxJxxxKQxxxxx, there’s nothing to be said that jumping to 3 would be a winner over bidding 1NT after 1 -- 1 -- 1.
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